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		<title>New Downspout To Deal With Poorly Graded Gutters</title>
		<link>http://www.thegutterclub.com/index.php/2011/07/25/new-downspout-to-deal-with-poorly-graded-gutters/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>We have this gutter run that is about 40 feet long along one side of our home.  Over the past few years it has developed a sag (probably due to ice dams) that cause it to fill up and overflow during heavy rains.  And even when it&#8217;s not raining, water obviously sits up there [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have this gutter run that is about 40 feet long along one side of our home.  Over the past few years it has developed a sag (probably due to ice dams) that cause it to fill up and overflow during heavy rains.  And even when it&#8217;s not raining, water obviously sits up there stagnant.</p>
<p>I was worried about what it would cost to get this run re-graded.  A guy came to look at it and said that it would be much simpler to simple add a new leader (downspout) at the low point.  That totally made sense to me, so we gave him the green light to make it happen.  It looks and works perfectly now.</p>
<p>Total cost $127!</p>
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		<title>Gutter Contractor&#8217;s Opinion on Gutter Guards</title>
		<link>http://www.thegutterclub.com/index.php/2011/05/13/gutter-contractors-opinion-on-gutter-guards/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 17:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Reader J. Woodson offers some advice born of experience in the are of selecting a gutter guard system for your home.  Here are his comments:</p> <p>I would like to tell all consumers who are interested in purchasing gutter guards of any kind, that as someone who has installed gutters and guards for almost 20 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reader J. Woodson offers some advice born of experience in the are of selecting a gutter guard system for your home.  Here are his comments:</p>
<p>I would like to tell all consumers who are interested in purchasing  gutter guards of any kind, that as someone who has installed gutters and  guards for almost 20 years now that all guards can work very well if  everything is perfect. But what people have to realize is that every  house is different and there will always be some kind of maintenance.</p>
<p>You have to realize that when you are dealing with salesmen they are not  the ones that will have to service them or deal with the customer face  to face like the installer, so they will guarantee you the world so you  will buy their product.</p>
<p>I have installed just about every guard there  is, and as much as it pains me to say this there is no point in spending  ten times as much as the gutters to protect them, even though the more  expensive ones can work very well when installed correctly and with a  little tweaking, as each house has its own problems, some of the more  reasonable priced guards are just as effective. But they will ALL need  some type of maintenance. There are no  magic guards that stop all the  leaves from either building up on the roof, or on top of guard,  and handle torrential downpours. You can’t stop it all with [one particular product].</p>
<p>So  just be sure you research the contractor you are using so if you do need  service they are someone you can count on to be there. If you are using a  product that has to go under your shingles and your roof is 20 years  old that probably is not something you want to use. If you have a very steep  roof with a lot of valleys you probably don’t want to use a guard that  completely covers your gutter. A lot of these products say that they can  be installed on any type of house, when that is not the case, some are  better for different types of houses. Research, research, research, and  save yourself a lot of headache and money.</p>
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		<title>Home Owners Recovering from a Tough Winter</title>
		<link>http://www.thegutterclub.com/index.php/2011/04/01/home-owners-recovering-from-a-tough-winter/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The Wall Street Journal recently post an article tabulating the various ways in which your home may have been damaged this winter.  Here are a few excerpts:</p> <p>Kathleen Hassinger and Brandon Halbert in Wynnewood, Pa., are among those whose home sustained multiple winter wounds. Ice dams damaged their 100-year-old home&#8217;s slate roof and left [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471904576230500999669500.html">Wall Street Journal</a> recently post an article tabulating the various ways in which your home may have been damaged this winter.  Here are a few excerpts:</p>
<blockquote><p>Kathleen Hassinger and  Brandon Halbert in Wynnewood, Pa., are among those whose home sustained multiple winter  wounds. Ice dams damaged their 100-year-old home&#8217;s slate roof and left  new gutters &#8220;twisted like a piece of tinfoil,&#8221; says Ms. Hassinger. Snow  sliding off the roof broke branches on shrubs while gutter runoff wore  bare spots into the lawn. Ms. Hassinger says they&#8217;ll be spending about  $1,000 for roof and gutter repair, and she&#8217;s rethinking placement of  plants and downspouts for next year.</p></blockquote>
<p>and&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>It was a banner year for ice dams, which typically build along roof  eaves in periods of extended cold, causing leaks and other damage.</p>
<p>Not only is the resulting moisture inside a roof or wall &#8220;like  putting gravy on meat&#8221; for carpenter ants and termites, Mr. Young says,  it can lead to longer-term woes like mold.</p>
<p>Replacing wet drywall and insulation is top priority. Also, fix broken gutters and shingles.</p>
<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re going to see gutters where exceptionally heavy snow storms  separated them&#8221; from the house, says David Dail, Home Depot&#8217;s  merchandising vice president for building materials.</p>
<p>&#8220;A leaky roof is pretty much something you&#8217;ve got to deal with,&#8221; he says.</p></blockquote>
<p>Read the full article over at the <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471904576230500999669500.html">Journal</a>.</p>
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		<title>Ice Dam Poetry!</title>
		<link>http://www.thegutterclub.com/index.php/2011/02/16/ice-dam-poetry/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Those crazy Minnesotans are so sick of ice dams that they decided to get poetic about it thanks to a little prompting by Jon Tevlin over at the Minnesota Star Tribune.  Here are a couple of the examples along with a link to the full article.</p> <p>Whose roof this is I think I know:</p> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those crazy Minnesotans are so sick of ice dams that they decided to get poetic about it thanks to a little prompting by Jon Tevlin over at the Minnesota Star Tribune.  Here are a couple of the examples along with a link to the full article.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Whose roof this is I think I know:</em></p>
<p><em>It rests atop my bungalow.</em></p>
<p><em>I cannot see it now, of course;</em></p>
<p><em>It&#8217;s covered up by ice and snow.</em></p>
<p><em>I chip away with brutal force</em></p>
<p><em>And cuss until I&#8217;m nearly hoarse;</em></p>
<p><em>I want this dam to go away,</em></p>
<p><em>But cussing cannot melt the source.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>And then there is this one with is sung to the tune of, you guessed it, Ice Ice Baby.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Ice Dam Baby, (Minnesota) Ice Dam Baby </em></p>
<p><em>All right stop, get out the insulation </em></p>
<p><em>Ice dam&#8217;s back bringing more devastation</em></p>
<p><em>Fling pantyhose in the air &#8211; unsightly</em></p>
<p><em>Up on the rooftop daily and nightly</em></p>
<p><em>Will it ever stop? Yo! I don&#8217;t know</em></p>
<p><em>Livin&#8217; in the land of the ice and snow</em></p>
<p><em>Got me a blowtorch, gonna keep rakin&#8217;</em></p>
<p><em>Bring it on winter, &#8217;cause I ain&#8217;t fakin&#8217;</em></p>
<p><em>Back on the roof, start heating the periphery</em></p>
<p><em>Southwest corner is gettin&#8217; pretty slippery </em></p>
<p><em>Fall off the roof face-first in a snowbank</em></p>
<p><em>Neighbor wanna help, but I say &#8220;no thanks&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em>Gotta be tough in the arctic nation</em></p>
<p><em>Weekend forecast only feeds my consternation</em></p>
<p><em>Ducts in my exhaust fans best be tight</em></p>
<p><em>&#8216;Cause the weatherman says: no relief in sight</em></p>
<p><em>Ice Dam Baby, (Minnesota) Ice Dam Baby</em></p></blockquote>
<p>You can read the full article over at <a href="http://www.startribune.com/local/116281044.html" target="_blank">StarTribune.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>Sorry for the lack of comment approvals</title>
		<link>http://www.thegutterclub.com/index.php/2010/11/08/sorry-for-the-lack-of-comment-approvals/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 20:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Well the leaves are falling and the gutters are clogging. Another Fall here in New England. Actually mine aren&#8217;t clogging. </p> <p>We apologize for the lack of recent comment approvals. Our server wasn&#8217;t alerting us to new comments and we still aren&#8217;t quite sure why. Hmmm. We just went through and approved about 30 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the leaves are falling and the gutters are clogging.  Another Fall here in New England.  Actually mine aren&#8217;t clogging.  <img src='http://www.thegutterclub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We apologize for the lack of recent comment approvals.  Our server wasn&#8217;t alerting us to new comments and we still aren&#8217;t quite sure why.  Hmmm.  We just went through and approved about 30 comments.  Keep them coming.</p>
<p>And we are always looking for anyone with an opinion on this industry to step up and write a guest post.  That would be fantastic.</p>
<p>Cheers and Happy Fall!</p>
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		<title>Evaluating Gutter Leaf Protection Systems</title>
		<link>http://www.thegutterclub.com/index.php/2009/11/05/evaluating-gutter-leaf-protection-systems/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Team</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[originally posted a few years ago, but let's use it to kick off The Gutter Club]</p> <p>I’ve spent a lot of time lately attempting to find the best solution for keeping leaves and plant material out of our gutters. We currently have *no* gutters on the house due to the renovation. I don’t simply [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[originally posted a few years ago, but let's use it to kick off The Gutter Club]</p>
<p>I’ve spent a lot of time lately attempting to find the best solution for keeping leaves and plant material out of our gutters. We currently have *no* gutters on the house due to the renovation. I don’t simply want to install open gutters and leave it at that, because the house is so tall now that I have no way to reach the gutters for cleaning.</p>
<p>So I’ve been investigating solutions. There are TONS of them. Everyone seems to either love or hate any one particular solution. And most people agree that none of them work perfectly… and some don’t work at all. Here are a few that I have looked at.</p>
<p>Leaf Guard<br />
Gutter Maxx<br />
Leaf Filter<br />
Gutter Filter<br />
Gutter Stuff<br />
Gutter Brush<br />
Alcoa Leaf Relief<br />
DIY options</p>
<p>We had Gutter Maxx come out and give us an estimate. GutterMaxx is like the next generation of LeafGuard. It looks like a quality product, but the price is ridiculous. For the ~100 feet of gutters (with all the pipes, downspouts, etc.) and the GutterMaxx topper, they wanted $4500. We talked them down to $3600, but that is still way more than our original open-gutter-only complete quote of $1200.</p>
<p>Today I had the local representative for Alcoa Leaf Relief come out to give an estimate. I wasn’t please by his unprofessional appearance and the fact that he seemed to work out of a station wagon packed with work stuff. I think that the Alcoa product is exactly what we need, but I’m wary about working with this particular guy.</p>
<p>No estimate back yet, but he indicated that Leaf Relief “isn’t the cheapest solution on the market.” Great. According to many other sources, this product *should* cost about $5-7 per linear foot, bringing us to $700 for installation on top of $1200 for the gutters themselves… for a total of $1900. Let’s see what he comes back with. I predict that it will be in the $3000 range. If so, I will laugh in his face.</p>
<p>Oh, and I did some research regarding the Alcoa 10-year No-Clog guarantee. It’s basically useless because it only kicks in if the INTERIOR of the gutters clog. If you’ve seen the product, it will be obvious that this isn’t its weak point. I have no doubt that the interiors will stay clear. The potential failure point of Leaf Relief is debris piling up on top of the perforation such that water runs off the top of the gutters. Sure they aren’t clogged, but they aren’t working either! There is NO guarantee that this won’t happen.</p>
<p>=== UPDATE ===</p>
<p>1.5 years after posting my thoughts on gutter leaf protection I went to Home Depot and paid $50 for a stack of Do-it-Yourself gutter guards. I installed them in about 1 hour and here it is, a month later, and they are working absolutely fine.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that the gutter protection “industry” is not worth your time and money.  Just do it yourself.</p>
<p>=== UPDATE 2 ===</p>
<p>I’ve now had my Home Depot DIY plastic gutter filters installed for about 8 months and they are working flawlessly! Seriously. The leaves and debris just blow off my roof and filters. I’ve lifted the filters off of the gutters and looked inside. Totally clean with the smallest amount of grit that doesn’t even require a thought.</p>
<p>Why oh why didn’t I install these things from day one?</p>
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		<title>Welcome to The Gutter Club</title>
		<link>http://www.thegutterclub.com/index.php/2009/11/04/welcome-to-the-gutter-club/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>At The Gutter Club, we will discuss and review the benefits and shortfalls of all of the major (and minor) systems created to protect your gutters and downspouts from leaves and other residue.</p> <p>This is a mini-industry that is fraught with exceptional claims and poor results.  We intend to get to the bottom of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At The Gutter Club, we will discuss and review the benefits and shortfalls of all of the major (and minor) systems created to protect your gutters and downspouts from leaves and other residue.</p>
<p>This is a mini-industry that is fraught with exceptional claims and poor results.  We intend to get to the bottom of it, with your help.</p>
<p>Thanks very much!</p>
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